ZOE Charging Curve (2.3kW ‘Granny’ Cable)

Soon after I bought our Type 2 ‘granny’ cable I did some testing to see how long it would take to charge the ZOE (when set to 10 Amps, about 2.3kW). Previously I’ve done some detailed monitoring of charge curves, specifically for 7kW home charging and 43kW rapid charging. Given that I knew this method would take much longer than either of those I chose to not monitor the whole charge, instead just one hour to get an idea of its behaviour.

Figure 1: ZOE 2.3kW Charge Curve (Image: T. Larkum)
Figure 1: ZOE 2.3kW Charge Curve (Image: T. Larkum)

As before, at regular intervals I noted the percentage state of charge and the predicted time to complete; these are shown in Figure 1 and Figure 2 respectively. With such a short test it is difficult to draw any firm conclusions, but it appears to be safe to deduce:

  • The ZOE dash predicts a charge time of about 10.5 hours from a start charge of 46%, so about 23 hours for a complete charge.
  • The ZOE is actually charging at about 6% per hour, so it should reach full charge in about 16 hours.

These findings are not inconsistent with each other, and the charge time is probably about 17-18 hours. Firstly, the previous analyses of charging curves show that the predicted charge time decreases over time, so it will likely decrease towards an actual lower charge time. Secondly, the predicted time includes time for battery balancing where the simple linear charge estimation does not, in other words there’s probably an hour or two of balancing ‘charging’ when the charge curve hits 99% – hence the estimation of 17-18 hours.

Figure 2: ZOE Charge Completion Prediction (Image: T. Larkum)
Figure 2: ZOE Charge Completion Prediction (Image: T. Larkum)

Of course, it’s obvious that this is a very slow way to charge compared to 3.5 hours on the usual home charge point (or half an hour on a rapid charger). This may be partly due to the charger being a generic, non-ZOE specific one and it may be partly due to the ZOE being an older Q210 model which is well known for inefficient charging at low powers.

So, if any readers are keen to volunteer, it would be interesting to repeat the test on other setups, for example:

  • A ZOE Dynamique Nav R240 with the Renault 13A cable
  • A ZOE Dynamique Nav Rapid Q210 (or older Intens) with the Renault 13A cable

If anyone sends me the details I’ll post them.

Meanwhile, despite the slow speed of charging, I have made good use of the cable a number of times to grab a ‘top up’ while spending time visiting family.

Figure 3: Green granny lead just visible going from front of ZOE under black car to garage (Image: T. Larkum)
Figure 3: Green granny lead just visible going from front of ZOE under black car to garage (Image: T. Larkum)

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    Soon after I bought our Type 2 ‘granny’ cable I did some testing to see how long it would take to charge the ZOE (when set to 10 Amps, about 2.3kW). P
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    some charge log entries

    R240 home made mobile charger @ 10 Amp

    5 feb 21:14 18% 6 feb 7:19 100%
    2 feb 22:02 57% 3 feb 3:05 100%
    1 feb 21:19 76% 2 feb 0:26 100%
    30 jan 19:39 66% 30 jan 23:41 100%
    28 jan 18:22 50% 29 jan 0:41 100%
    27 jan 19:35 49% 28 jan 2:15 100%

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    Trevor Larkum
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    Thanks bitman.

    5 feb 21:14 18% 6 feb 7:19 100% – 10 hours, so about 14 hours to 100%
    2 feb 22:02 57% 3 feb 3:05 100% – 5 hours, so about 12 hours to 100%
    1 feb 21:19 76% 2 feb 0:26 100% – 3 hours, so about 12.5 hours to 100%
    30 jan 19:39 66% 30 jan 23:41 100% – 4 hours, so about 12 hours to 100%
    28 jan 18:22 50% 29 jan 0:41 100% – 10 hours, so about 14 hours to 100%
    27 jan 19:35 49% 28 jan 2:15 100% – 7.5 hours, so about 14.5 hours to 100%

    Average: 13 hours (about 7.5% per hour)

    So it certainly looks like the R240 combined with that particular charger is significantly better than my Q210 with a ‘Ratio Electric’ charger.

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