Electric vs Hydrogen

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  • #19242

    AJ
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    Interesting article on the BBC. Puts across both point well.

    Shows a test drive of the new Toyota Mirai, hydrogen fuel cell car and the Nissan leaf, with examples of refuelling of each – makes a very valid argument for EVs – Electricity is everywhere…Hydrogen is always “the fuel of the future” – ie the future never comes!

    Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-33005362

    #19251

    sandy
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    But isn’t a Hydrogen car an EV? It just uses different tech to get a charge.

    #19255

    AJ
    Participant

    Yes it is. The issue is going to be getting the Hydrogen though. It’s a costly fuel to produce and it has to be distributed. Maybe in the future Petrol stations will seel Hydrogen, in the same way they sometimes sell LPG.

    The cost of the tech has to drop a lot though to be attractive.

    #19279

    Trevor Larkum
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    I’d say it isn’t an EV, it’s a hybrid like a Prius – just using hydrogen instead of petrol.

    #19297

    sandy
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    Ah do hydrogen cars combust their fuel? I thought it was a chemical process to create electricity rather than storing the leccy in batteries. TBH i’ve never really looked into it as its such a future product it probably won’t be available realistically any time soon.

    #19671

    ??D
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    I’d say it isn’t an EV, it’s a hybrid like a Prius – just using hydrogen instead of petrol.

    I don’t know much about them, but presumed they were more like range-extended EVs; the hydrogen is used to create electricity, and there’s a single, electric drive train?

    I also figured they’d have (small) batteries, but I haven’t really looked at them after Elon Musk’s comment about it costing us more electric to separate the hydrogen as we get back in the vehicle? Doesn’t seem like a good trade (even if it does increase range!).

    #19820

    Zoe Al
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    The article gives the impression that these Rapid chargers are few & far between & in Japan, no mention that they are about every 30 or so miles along most of our motorway network!!!

    #19827

    mojo36
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    Another article I saw expressed concern that the amount of water coming from the exhaust could cause problems in icy conditions if they became too popular.

    #19901

    sandy
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    Seriously, most modern cars produce huge volumes of water vapour from their exhausts. In fact you normally find infrequently used or short journey ICE cars have litres of water in their back box….. first big hill they go up and its poring out.

    #19915

    mojo36
    Participant

    Understood, but not continuously to the same extent according to the article. More reason to promote EV’s?

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