Are you looking at actual ranges, or estimated? We don’t have ours yet, so can’t really comment on what’s normal; but the cold weather will definitely affect the range (I’ve seen people say range is 60-90, 60 in bad/cold conditions and 90 in good/warm conditions).
but that stop start traffic should be better as the battery can recharge itself
This isn’t entirely true; but a lot of people seem confused by it. Regen braking gives you back energy that would otherwise be wasted in a conventional car; but it can only ever reclaim *less* than the energy spent “over”-accelerating. Although you’ll see the battery recharging during braking (which leads people to believe stop/start is increasing range) you’d actually get better range if you didn’t brake at all (eg. you used the accelerator the minimum to get there, without having to brake; obviously this isn’t really practical!).
This is further confused by the fact that you get better range at lower speeds (due to the way air resistance increases exponentially as your speed increases). So, you will get better range around town; but it’s not because of regen braking 🙂
I would be very interested to hear of others experience as although I love the car, I am a bit peeved that we have been misled regarding the range.
I saw in some other posts here, people were getting in the high 90s this week; so I definitely think that range is possible. That said; they’ve been driving the ZOE for some time; so are probably very practised at driving economically!
One thing to check is the score on your Eco Report thing… If that’s quite low, then there’s probably lots of room for increasing your range 🙂
Hi all,
I am new to this site but am after a bit of advice if that’s OK – I ordered a new Zoe back in January and picked it up on 1st March. I am very happy with the car itself, but a bit miffed with the range. We were told that the absolute max range recorded was 130 miles but we should typically expect 80 – 100 miles on a full charge. Unfortunately, the most I have had so far is 65 miles (in Eco mode, stop start traffic commuting to work) and when I asked Renault about this they told me the max range is 99 miles not 130 as we were led to believe and that 60 miles on a full charge is not out of the ordinary.
Do you agree? having read a lot of reviews it seems that 80 – 90 miles is the norm, but I can’t get anywhere near that.
I was told that the computer predicts the range on the last 100 miles driven so it would take a while to get used to the available range and that it would depend on what kind of driving I was doing, but that stop start traffic should be better as the battery can recharge itself.
In fact I remember taking the test drive in a car that only had a 75% charge and there was 67 available miles on it when we took it out and I also remember those miles increasing when we were stuck in traffic.
I have now driven almost 400 miles but alas, we can’t even get over 65 miles let alone 80, and the available miles only go one way….down 🙁
I only have to do one longer trip per week which is around 75 miles round trip, it is on the motorway so I was very careful, did not go over 70mph, did not use the heating and still the miles were dropping rapidly and I had to charge back up to 97% in the services before getting home with just 6 miles left to spare.
I would be very interested to hear of others experience as although I love the car, I am a bit peeved that we have been misled regarding the range.
Thanks,
Shell
so it’s possible that you check your phone app or the web site and your car battery level is showing a lower % than for real
Does it show you in the app what time the data is from, so you at least know it’s stale?
Samsam – The ZOE can take up to 24 hours to send charging information to the Renault servers so it’s possible that you check your phone app or the web site and your car battery level is showing a lower % than for real. This often happens to me, the car is fully charged but the information from ZE services is not up to date.
This 24 hours is part of the design spec I have been told by R-Link support. Renault really need to improve this as it make the ZE services and R-Link very poor for my use.
I like the idea of a PHEV but nothing appeals at the moment and we only got the Land Rover last year so that can stay for a few years until LR start doing decent Hybrids rather than just the Range Rover
If I needed the range frequently, I’d look into range-extended vehicles rather than a normal hybrids.. They drive on electric at all times and have a (small) petrol engine to charge the battery.
Presumably this is more efficient (smaller engine, constant revs) and might also be mechanically simpler (being able to switch between an elec motor and petrol engine must surely add some complications!)
I managed a 98 this morning. Now I am hoping that the summer weather will break the 100 barrier. I got my Zoe just in time for the coldest of winter weather, so these kind of figures are most welcome.
Dr Steel, have you practiced the 80% charge to look after your battery all this time. I have been following your advice in earlier threads about this as it makes a lot of sense. It even seems to work on my phone batter well, which is also lithium iron.
Hey Sandy – Yes i think so …although the document calls it a Hire Purchase Agreement. I paid £1200 up front I think and I pay a monthly fee of £189 + battery hire. This allows me to pay a small deposit and drive away a brand new car that right now I could otherwise not do. Also servicing etc. all included.
I’m on the side of DanTup, anyone using the battery powered part of their PHEV is to be commended. It’s all reducing oil consumption and reducing carbon emissions. I would hope that they would only stay connected to the charger while their car is still charging, perhaps a charging structure that charges higher rates once the charge has completed would be a way controlling behaviour. Perhaps the need to charge so frequently will influence them to buy a car with a bigger battery the next time.
I’ve also seen negative comments about the BYD taxi’s using chargers for too long with their large battery packs. I guess some folk think that their choice is best and everyone is wrong.
It is a security feature often sold (eg. here), along with realtime tracking. Though it’s not “turning the battery off”, so it works with conventional cars too.
I actually think via R-Link app/website we should be able to track our own cars in the same way we can our mobile phones! Having this as standard could help cut car theft.
Ok here is a corker..
If Renault can switch our car batteries off at any time (Not that they would for safety reasons and PR and bad press) But what about this..
If they can switch them off what a cool security feature that is call Renault if your car ever gets stolen and they can turn it off..
Discount for Insurance it think..?