Hi All,
Just wondering what Battery Leases people have purchased?
I plan to use my Zoe quite a bit (already 600 miles in the first week!)
I was fortunate enough to order just as the new incentives came on line, therefore my Zoe Intens is actually only costing £10,800 new in total.
I have also taken out a 14,000 mile per year lease at £73 per month.
I was offered I higher lease at £93 per month but thought that paying the excess mileage would work out cheaper?
I plan to drive it around 17,000 miles per annum therefore I calculate as follows
14,000 per year = £73 per month = £73 x 12 = £876
17,000 per year = £93 per month = £93 x 12 = £1,116
difference = £1,116 – £876 = £240
Excess mileage @ 5p per mile = 3000 x 0.05 = £150
So I’m saving £90 per year?……right? or have I missed something?
The Story so far….. in a galaxy (well country) not so far away (just over the channel), a family live with only an electric car as transport. France has all sort of special features and in the case of the Electric car, it is their love of the Type 3c connector which is “special” (and unique to France). Unfortunately, this means we are not equiped with a Type 2->Type 2 cable but we did by the optional Occasional Charging Cable (now with France/UK adapter attached).
20th December –
We drove to Rennes (122km) and used one of the several public charging stations (Type 3c connector although Type 2 is available) 22kw to charge while we went for lunch. As these charging stations are publicly provided they are in great locations suitable for walking into the pedestrian centre of Rennes.
We then drove on after lunch to Saint Malo where we checked in to our hotel for the night. A quick trip to Renault in Saint Malo to recharge seemed a good precaution before our ferry in the morning.
First learning point – Although Renault SAint Malo are very helpful, it turns out they have onnly 22kw at there disposal, despite 4 charging stations (or bornes as they are known). That means if someone else happens to be charging (and this was the case for the first time), then you “share” the available power. Hence, it took twice as long to recharge as planned (but had left plenty of time). Round trip – 4km)
21st December –
After a not particularly comfortable night (didn’t want to shell out on medium priced hotel – mistake!), we set off for the port (3km) and arrived with 95% charge “on the board”. Brittany Ferries at our request had put a special note that we should be parked close to a charge point BUT because we have a dog, they put us with the “carrying a pet” group of cars where there was, of course, no plug available. Still, no harm done since we were so full (just wanted to see if it was available since the ferry is 9 or 10 hours, depending on daytime / nighttime).
On arrival in Portsmouth (now 6.30pm), we set off for Fleet services more or less directly north by A3 and backroads (via Hook interchange), about 73km. No problem with the trip and arrived at Fleet Services just over an hour later to park in front of the Ecotricy chargers. I should at this point mention that the nice people at Ecotricty had sent us a “Electric Highway” card some weeks earlier (which I know about from Robert Llewelyn’s “Fully Charged” program on Youtube.
First Issue – Couldn’t get the Zoe to charge. Card worked fine. Plugged in and the dash says “On-going checks” but it never completes them. Charge station says “Waiting for request for power” and then times out with a “Expiry” message. Aarrrggh! Tried a few times and although once we did get a “Impossible to charge” message fleetingly as we removed the cable from the Zoe, we couldn’t get it to work. Tried to call Ecotricty (it was after 8pm on a Sunday but you never know) and couldn’t even get it to ring (I have a Vodafone UK mobile for my work).
Couldn’t get any internet connection to even do a little bit of research.
So, we had no choice but to push on with only 53% full. I had allow for this eventuality in the plan, but it was tight given that we would be travelling on motorways and nothing kills your battery like speeding along. Then, “good luck”, it turns out the M3 is speed restricted to 80kph (50mph) from Hook right up the M25. We could travel at 70kph without being too unreasonable to other drivers. Never thought I’d be glad of the M3 roadworks (apparently they will be there up until 5am on March 28th 2017!!).
We then deviated from our original plan to use the M4 and came along the A30 (as it is shorter and slower) instead. Arrived at the Parents-in-law with 23km showing (16%).
And the Occasional Charging Cable (wth France/UK adapter) worked! Only 15h50 to recharge to 100% but hey it is charging! It is now (as of 8.35am) at 79%.
Hi all,
I’ve finally had British Gas round to install my wallbox and it was working fine for a couple of days, but I got back from a day out to find that when I plugged my Zoe into the wallbox it came up with a “battery charging impossible” warning on the dashboard. I can still charge the car on the 3 pin plug cable from within the house so I *think* it isn’t a fault with the car. I have rebooted the wallbox a few times by turning it off at the RCD unit inside the house, but each time I plug back in via the wallbox I hear the plug lock into place in the car and see the battery light come on on the wallbox but then after 10-20 seconds the ‘battery charging impossible’ warning comes back on. I’ve tried jiggling the connector, turning the key on and off on the wallbox, locking and unlocking the car and the charging connection hatch etc…and various variations and permutations on all these.
Any ideas, or will I have to get BG back out to sort it?
Thanks in advance,
Tom.
It’s a very bad idea to recharge at 98%. Do you really use the whole battery charge between charges so much to justify stressing it like that?
Thanks Andyfras. After installing the update yesterday this morning my R-Link Toolbox on my PC tells me that there is an (another) update ready to be installed! Can’t believe it myself but will have a go and see what happens. I am still trying to get my dealer to accept there is problem with the Dashboard – as you say no rush – a Zoe is for life not just for Xmas! Good fun for (patient) early adopters like us, eh? The “update” took a few seconds so not sure anything happened – nothing seems to have happened in the car. FYI the latest version om my Zoe is 11.318.1700774-5014. BTW has anyone looked into battery purchase from Renault? Could be a good investment once we feel happy with the car and oil goes up again …
The battery has two fans at the rear under the rear seats.
T think the header tank is coolant for the motor driver/ charger and the motor itself. Even the most efficient electronics will dissipate a bit of the power going through it and turn it into heat. With 43KW charging and a 65Kw motor even a 1% loss means a lot of heat that has to go somewhere. I think the battery has a little air cooling.
Yes, I was aware of that thanks, but it was extrememely stiff to move. The handbook also suggests pressing the clutch to achieve this in readiness for towing!!. I presume this is a leftover from the Clio handbook. There was a similar feature in Scenics.
The hadbook also stresses the need to check water levels to avoid ruining the engine!!
There is a small header tank which I presume is to do with either the a/c or battery cooling.
Had a play yesterday evening, at the moment not fussed about battery life and just seeing how it handled as a car.
Certainly competent in traffic and quick off the mark at traffic lights – surprised a few people as this funny white car noiselessly zoomed off.
Took it out of the motorway and caned it. Got to 87, but didn’t seem terribly happy there, so its certainly not a long distance miles eating car, but then we knew that. But driving at more sensible motorway speeds (60-70) it didn’t appear to have too much trouble.
Teenage sons have completely reconfigured the radio and sat nav, so no ide what they do now.
Unfortunately, my wife rather likes my new mistress, so I could see myself relegated to her old Toyota.
Dropping 43KW charging seems mad to me. I for one would not have purchased a ZOE without it. When ever someone asks me about the car the first question is always how far can you go on a charge and the second is how long does it take to charge. Telling people that they will have to spend double the time at motorway services will kill sales dead. It will change the car from one that can be used generally to a commuting only car with slow charging at destinations. I had presumed that over time 3KW charging points would be dropped in favour of 7KW or more.
I’ve just done some sums on the rapid charges that I did a couple of weeks ago and the best average charge rate that I achieved was 23.76KW charging rate adding 54% of battery capacity to 94% total in 30 minutes. Given that the charge rate slows down as battery fills the bulk of the charging probably was probably at a higher rate. 22Kw charging would have made it a long stop.
I can see the reasoning for making a combined unit. I don’t think the average mechanic would want to or have the knowledge to deal with high current 400V electronics. They usually shy away from 12V electrics, preferring to pass this over to auto electricians. Reducing the length of thick copper interconnects also reduces the cost substantially.