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October 4, 2014 at 07:30 #9979
In reply to: CHarge point conversion
I would presume
A) it is still under warranty,
B) if you do this change yourself, it no longer would be, and
C) you would need the warranty to be able to call them back in the event it doesn’t want to function with the Zoe.To my mind, this adds up to a conclusion that you should be asking the original installers/manufacturer to make the change.
You are correct that the wiring is exactly the same for the J1772 and Type 2 standards. You can buy a ‘flying lead’ and it would be a case of wiring that new cable in to where the existing lines go in the box. I very much doubt it would be a difficult job because the volumes are so low that no manufacturer would make a different box simply to take the two types of lead, so I would presume internal compatibility is assured, and it should be relatively straightforward for a visiting engineer to make the change. (Just an assumption.)
May I ask – if you are happy with the C-zero, why not pick up another one for £7k, inc battery, than go with the Zoe? Not that I am questioning the decision itself, there are many benefits to you doing so, simply interested in your logic why you feel you need to move on from what you had?
October 3, 2014 at 12:49 #9975In reply to: Renault offers EV outright purchase
Well if you buy the battery and then it fails it begs the question that.. would Renfault allow you to buy a new
replacement?I think it would be a case of “go away and buy a new Zoe and scrap your old car”.
We’ve had our fingers burnt on more that one occasion whilst dealing with Renfault.
Example, what happened to the dangerous dash swap out? I never say “told you so”.
Zoe is a fantastic car just a shame that it’s a Renfault.
October 3, 2014 at 11:26 #9974In reply to: Renault offers EV outright purchase
i think i would like to buy the battery so i own 100% of the car – but i think i will at least get the battery changed by Renault before i buy the battery. hopefully the capacity will drop enough before the end of the lease period!
September 30, 2014 at 16:47 #9944In reply to: Charging Issues?
Well Renault are a complete bunch of to**ers!! Stephanie from Customer services has just basically said to me that I will have to live with the Battery Charging Impossible Error and that the car isn’t compatible with certain charging stations and they aren’t going to do anything about it! It will be the last Renault piece of rubbish I will ever buy!
September 29, 2014 at 23:41 #9943In reply to: A fight to free Zoe's battery
To my mind I wouldn’t do anything other than lease both the car and battery at the present time. For both I am paying under £180 per month based on 7000 MPA having paid a relatively small deposit of £1500.
If you roll in the fuel savings, no road tax, free servicing and Renault taking the risk on depreciation too I thinks its really cheap motoring.
This is relatively new technology and no one can really predict the market for a 3 year old Zoe – rent it, enjoy it and then hand it back!
September 29, 2014 at 23:32 #9941In reply to: A fight to free Zoe's battery
People really need to be careful of what they wish for!!
The Renault battery rental is actually one of the better things Renault is doing for you, as an EV owner.
At the moment, it is quite untrue that you are paying 2 to 3 times the cost of the battery over 10 years. On the contrary, at today’s prices, unless you’re doing starship mileages, a ‘normal’ driver of some 10k miles per year will face a 10 year rental bill very little larger than the cost of a replacement battery, but I’ll bet money that your LMO battery packs will actually need replacing in that time.
For reasons which, admittedly, are particularly pertinent to my own recent, abortive ownership (but nonetheless I have eyes to see that out of warranty EVs are already costing people dear) I would not only strongly advocate for leasing your EV (in which case, there is nothing particularly advantageous about doing anything other than renting the battery), I would say that you are being rather over optimistic about the reliability and life-time costs of currently available EVs.
September 29, 2014 at 20:40 #9939Topic: A fight to free Zoe's battery
in forum Zoe News and DiscussionAkanksha, welcome. There are various installers of charging points, with British Gas being about the biggest. However, if you purchase a car the dealer will likely arrange the installation for you, and the manufacturer may contribute towards the cost (Renault certainly does for the ZOE). The domestic and workplace ones now pretty much have a standard connector, called Type 2, though they can vary in power (typically 16 or 32 kW, and I would recommend the higher power one).
The amount of time to charge depends on the power of the charger and the size of the car’s battery. A low power charger charging a fully electric car would take 12-24 hours, but that’s now a fairly unusual scenario. A high power charger would take 3-4 hours for a fully electric car, and if the car is a plugin hybrid like a Vauxhall Ampera or a Volkswagen Golf GTE then it might only take 2 hours.
By all means email me (trevor-larkum [@] armourarchive.co.uk) for more information, or start a discussion in the forum.
September 25, 2014 at 23:28 #9912In reply to: Strange dealer delays
Seems the dealer didn’t really know what was going on… It was the department of transport form, not a DVLA form. On top of that I went to sign my finance and battery lease documents but the excess mileage was 30p per mile on it, not the 4.5p I was told over the phone and email. Needless to say I refused to sign. My wife does 4,500 miles per year so 3k mile rental is too little so would mean an extra £450 per year in excess mileage charges, rather than £67. Quite a difference. Just in the process of trying resolve the issue. The dealer, bless them, are trying.
Dr Steel, mine has come from the Sheffield branch stock, but dealt with through Doncaster. How are you getting on with yours?
September 24, 2014 at 14:08 #9906In reply to: Charging Issues?
Sad to say, I could almost have written your piece.I have Zoe since June 2013,think the first in Ireland.
I have my own list of “Not Spot” towns and villages that I have to avoid because of the still unresolved CPs and the BCI faults,some of these CPs have never charged Zoe since they were installed over a year ago.
I have a similar background and gave up trying to speak to the various people involved in the EV project,and leaving the Facebook groups,who seem to be a “Leafy valley Country Club” I believe Renault may not be capable of fixing the Charge issue, and the suppliers point out that it is only the Zoe that refuses to take a charge at these points.
I don’t know if you listened to “You and Yours” on the 18th BBC radio 4, regarding the Tesla and battery degradation not being covered by warranty,as the Leaf .Warranty only covering faults,and as the gentleman pointed out , even if his car, with 13K extended warranty, could only travel one mile on the battery, this is not considered a fault, and not covered.
Sorry to hear you gave up on Renault but who could blame you, they won’t even let the dealers put “Electric” sticker on the Zoe in the showroom, might detract from ICE sales? -
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