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  • #9823

    In reply to: Charging Issues?


    chapinch
    Participant

    Hi Poolmarket,

    I was very fortunate believe it or not, as I had only had my car 3 days before the BCI, Renault tried to palm me off with a Nissan Micra at first but I repeatedly said I wasn’t paying for petrol and battery hire. They reimbursed me for the fuel I had purchased and gave me a another Zoe for the remaining 5 weeks that they had my car.
    I’ve had my car back a week now and no issues at all with BCI. In the end I ran up 1700 miles on their Zoe and they have agreed to pay me £400 in compensation + petrol.

    I found that by arranging regular call backs from Renault HQ and escalating it early, you are in a position to pull them up on their incompetence at every opportunity. By repeatedly doing this you are in a better position to negotiate a deal for yourself.

    Don’t get me wrong I’m not a complainer, in fact I’m a very laid back person and although I wasn’t happy at only having my car for 3 days before it went wrong, I wasn’t going to kick up a stink as these things happen it’s new technology after all. But after the 5 time of ordering the wrong part and finally installing it (it being a major component) then returning my car without carrying out any regression testing I discovered they hadn’t checked the cruise control which was now broke, everyone has a breaking point!!!!

    #9812

    In reply to: Charging Issues?


    jit187
    Participant

    has anyone noticed that there appears to be 2 different levels of ”Battery charging impossible”

    the first is where the message appears in the dashboard but with a yellow background (and the front blue ZE light near the charge port remains blue)

    the second is the same message in the dashboard but with red background, but this time the blue ZE light near the charge port flashes red.

    with the first message with the yellow background the ”Battery charging impossible” can be cleared by moving around the charging cable whereas with the second ‘red’ background its much more difficult to clear the car error message. not sure if anyone can shed any more light on the difference between the two ”Battery charging impossible” messages and what might be going on inside the zoe…

    #9811

    In reply to: Charging Issues?


    Buzzar
    Participant

    “How easy is it to open a case with the financial ombudsman?”

    Very easy, just give it a google but be warned you will be dealing with a bunch of desk tied chimps whom don’t understand the concept of a screwdriver.

    If I where you then I would push for the battery charge controller unit to be replaced and then replaced again if the BCI state reoccurs as the financial ombudsman proved to be an agonising dead end for us.

    and @poolmarket “I will ask them about covering the battery lease as I have made 2 payments”

    In the 3 months that we where without our car we had to pay the battery lease as come what may it has to be payed according to Renault and the battery rental agreement but good luck!

    #9809

    In reply to: Charging Issues?


    poolmarket
    Participant

    You must have been one of the other people on the list Renault kept telling me I was on waiting for the charging unit. A shame that I had the car back 1 week and then yesterday it gave me the battery charging impossible error again!
    I have now taken the car back to the dealer and have told them I want to reject it as am not prepared to have it gone for another 3 months whilst they try and fix it.

    I hope yours is properly fixed unlike mine!

    #9802

    Dr Steel
    Participant

    No No not a challenge as such it just as the weather gets colder the miles reduce like this morning Zoe was down to 78 after the charge I am with British Gas home charge it takes about 3 hrs for a full charge from empty its a very good service and I have not even noticed and major rise in my bills in fact Lndira I have been so impressed on how much I have spent on the charging or not spent on charging in the last year, and on my travels I only use ecotricity so its been cool

    But the Zoe battery performs so much better in the sun a bit like us all I guess

    Dr Steel

    #9800

    Dr Steel
    Participant

    Thanks for letting us no lndira As i said in my last post they are getting back to me next week

    I bet your getting very excited now of your new car you will enjoy it so much I love mine shame you will have to wait till next summer to get the full use out of the battery I got 99 miles on the clock last month funny how little things like that put a smile on your face

    Thanks again

    Dr Steel

    #9779

    donald
    Participant

    Think about it. No clutch, no gearbox, no points, no spark plugs, no timing chain, no petrol pump, no coil, no fuel injection, no water jacket and circulation pump, no exhaust pipe and silencer, no oil changes, filters and pumps, etc, etc.

    I have thought about it before…. It is an attractive argument, but it has a rather bleak corollary:

    If you compare an ICE consists of £5k of ‘car’ and £5k of 100 bits that are waiting to go wrong, to an EV of £5k of ‘car’ and £15k of 4 bits that can go wrong (motor, battery, inverter and charger, basically), then if something goes wrong with the ICE it’ll cost £50 on average in parts, and if something goes wrong with the EV it’ll cost £3,750 on average in parts.

    …hmmmmm….

    You can talk yourself into either argument, and you’ll make the argument fit what you want to do. It’s not a logical decision you’ll actually be making. Just pick what you want.

    #9775

    Buzzar
    Participant

    I was one of the early adopters taking delivery on 28-May-2013 and two days later Zoe was on a flatbed on its way to
    Renault ZE service Birmingham.

    Three months and four more trips on the flatbed Zoe is now working as intended. sort of as the dreaded
    “BATTERY CHARGE IMPOSSIBLE” still rears its ugly head on occasion.
    Through extensive experience with Renault customer support and Renault dealers I conclude that they know nothing about EV’s and don’t appear to have received any training on the subject as I found myself doing the education on more than one occasion.

    That apart, I am driving the best and most advanced mass-market EV available period and she is simply fantastic to drive.
    Wife and I still fight over who is going to drive 🙂 🙂

    I would hope that Renault have learnt something from our bad experiences but looking at these forums new owners can still pick up an expensive lemon!

    #9765

    mrash
    Participant

    Thanks,
    The other frustrating thing I’m running into is getting some honest figures from dealers…

    My wife does about 4500 miles a year but the battery agreement only covers 3k miles a year, or we can pay a lot more for 7500 miles a year which is pointless. So how would it work paying for a battery lease of 3k miles a year but covering more?

    Also, the public charge points, are they free or is there a membership cost involved with these too?

    Sorry for all the questions, and thanks in advance for the help 🙂

    #9726

    jit187
    Participant

    http://www.thriev.com/

    I was surprised to find out that a taxi firm in london is running a fleet of EV cabs!

    Bad news is they are hogging most of the Ecotricity chargers… i’ve had to wait around a few times to charge and their cars (BYD) http://www.byd.com/ have a massive 72Kwh battery and even on the rapid AC charger take well over 1hr…

    keep a look out for these guys aroudn the london area!

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