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In reply to: Mark D's ZOE
Thanks Trevor – I am worried about it, but I want to resolve it and not be worried about it – I certainly want to be an advocate for what is otherwise a car I’m delighted with.
In the back of my mind there’s that niggle; is there a problem with the battery? In terms of consumption, I appreciate the issue has been touched on in other forum posts, but I’m not sure what I should be aiming for, specifically what a good mpkwh number looks like.
Can we get some guidance on that? Some member examples. If range is unerringly linked to mpkwh, that should be relatively easy to prove. However if range is down (on my car) with a comparable mpkwh figure, perhaps some dealer diagnostics is in order.
It would be great to formulate a chart that shows range fluctuation within mpkwh – would any deviation not point to other factors such as wheels/tyres, battery health, terrain/environment or whatever?
Just thinking out loud, really – at the very least would be good to have comparable data when discussing with the dealer.
Cheers,
MarkIn reply to: Mark D's ZOE
So we charged up last night and went to the shops today. With 100% battery we had a predicted range of 69 miles. As we set off, I reset the r-link Eco meter and the predicted range went up to 85 miles (briefly peaked at 86 as we coasted downhill a bit), then rapidly dropped back to 68 miles by the time we completed our 6 mile round trip.
Overall, the Eco meter was reading 94/100 when we got back, so really not much room for improvement there! It is quite hilly in and out of our village, but overall I’m still left feeling I should be getting more range than the ZOE predicts. Work in progress I guess.
In reply to: Comfort Timer – nice!
I love it, the only thing is I don’t charge daily so when my battery is below 45% (come on 45% really!) I can’t do the key fob thing.
I have recently added the marketing manager for Renault UK onto my LinkedIN and thought about suggesting to him getting all the Zoe owners together for a focus group. this way we could feedback how we would change/improve the car and the customer care side.
Maybe a new thread with a list of improvements would be a good start. EG, allowing the 5min pre conditioning over say 30%. Audible noise when reversing, dark dashboard etc.
Topic: DRM Furore
I have read a number of articles today (all stemming from one, it looks like to me) that are trying to say that the battery lease agreement for the ZOE is the same as DRM. I am not making that connection myself, and I appreciated Trevor’s comments in one more reasoned article (http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1088489_battery-lessor-for-electric-renault-zoe-can-halt-recharging-remotely).
I wondered what everyone else thought? Herd mentality of a lazy media jumping on an anti DRM bandwagon and getting the ZOE caught in the cross fire?
Peter
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This topic was modified 12 years, 5 months ago by
alloam.
In reply to: Insuring a Zoe
I’m with Diamond (yes – for women!…) and I did something similar to what ‘Woodlee’ did i.e. insure the total car value at £29K including the battery.
I paid £500 (as i’ve been a company car driver for the last 7 years and our fleet insurance does not provide a NCD proof…)
In reply to: Insuring a Zoe
Someone suggested phoning a broker rather than going direct to the insurer, as they can get quoted for modified and custom cars etc. I’ve managed to get 2 quotes that will cover the battery and are prepared to confirm in writing.
I had been quoted £171 from Admiral and £160 from Direct line but they don’t cover the battery.
A Plan quoted £250 and B Wiser £302 both said they would cover the battery.
To put the quotes into context they are for business use, fully comp, protected NCD, I’m 49 years old with 10+ NCD, clean everything and nice postcode.
Whats worrying me about just increasing the cars value is the guy at Admiral said they will only pay market value no matter what I say the car is worth. So if in 12 months time these cars are selling 2nd hand for £12-13K I think an insurance company will only be likely to payout £10-11K. In the event of total loss, after giving Renault £7000ish for the battery that don’t leave much to replace the car.
I think I will give Renault a call and get a quote as suggested many thanks for all your input.
Regards Steve.
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This reply was modified 12 years, 5 months ago by
mole.
In reply to: Insuring a Zoe
Having trawled this forum and read the posts about insurance I tried the usual famous comparison websites for a quote, but used a value of £29,000 for the car, made up from cost of car with extras before PICG and adding the cost of battery replacement. Having got these I then phoned Renault Insurance who, after a couple of “just referring back to our underwriters” managed to beat the lowest online quote by about £50. They got my business.
Regards, PeterIn reply to: Insuring a Zoe
I have no details of my car as yet, due early Dec?, but made provisional enquiries with my present insurer, LV=, who quoted an addtional £8 for the remainder of my term till May ’14.
They seemed familiar with the Zoe, but there was no mention of the battery so I will have to be more specific when I try to finalise the insurance.
I guess I also need to check their recovery arrangements in the event of a RTA.
Does anyone know why Zoe should not be towed with the front wheels off the road?In reply to: Insuring a Zoe
I was originally going with Renault’s own insurance, who told me that they were the only company to include the battery. Unfortunately they quoted a silly price when I told them I was keeping my previous car for a while, as I couldn’t use the no-claims on 2 policies. So I went with Admiral (£250 with zero no-claims) – I must confess that I’m hoping for the best as far as the batteries are concerned.
When I renew, I’ll have the no-claims discount available again, so I’ll be checking the market; hopefully they’ll have got their act together by then.
In reply to: Insuring a Zoe
I spoke to Axa because I was with them already. They were totally unsure about their position but our discussion did raise an interesting point.
In order to offer insurance a company (or their underwriters) need to make an assessment of the likely payout values for the car being insured. Unlike the Leaf, the Zoe is *only* available with a battery lease and I’m confident the underwriters will have carefully checked who would be responsible for the insurance of the leased battery. Therefore, by offering to insure the Zoe the underwriters are accepting that either they didn’t do their job properly or they are including cover for the battery.
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