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  • #3018

    Appmacguy
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    Are you having second thoughts Smitchy73?

    #3019

    Anonymous

    @nickh I ordered an Intens in Calico Grey with the Protection Pack and Delivery Pack, and I think I ordered it on 4th May – if not it’d have been the 11th.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Calico Grey is the reason I’ve got a long wait ahead of me!

    #3020

    nickh
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    I ordered an Intens in Calico Grey with some options including the 17″ wheels. Will give my dealer a call tomorrow!

    #3021

    smitchy73
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    @appmacguy, it’s not i’m having second thoughts as such, i’ve been left so disappointed over the delays since I ordered last March(2012) and lack of information from Renault as a whole, and even worse from my local dealer who won’t even give me a test drive of further than ‘around the block’ which isn’t good, as someone who pre-reserved the car on the opening day, travelled to Paris with Whatcar as part of their reader test team, along with Renaults director of communication(in this months edition).
    I also bought a Leaf back in February, which I would happily part exchange, but the Zoe although a much cheaper car, works out at about £110 a month more expensive between the car payment and the battery lease, if there was a huge difference in the car from the Leaf I wouldn’t hesitate, but without a proper decent test drive of at least 50 miles of various road’s I won’t be signing, as I have no idea if it will even get me between home, work and my return journey home with no charging at work, I’ve read a small review from another test driver and it didn’t look too good for a similar range of the Leaf.
    I was given a date of 4th June off the factory with delivery due around the 28th June.

    #3022

    Anonymous

    I’ve read a small review from another test driver and it didn’t look too good for a similar range of the Leaf

    Hi @smitchy73 – is there anything in particular they said regarding range?

    #3025

    Appmacguy
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    smitchy73, it’s such a shame you feel this way. I have said in another post Renault should be really looking after people who are considering being early adaptors. Tons of information, key ZE advisors in each dealerships, half day test drives and amazing finance deals should be on offer to make sure we are spreading the word of how good we feel Renault are.

    They should even be participating in forums like this!

    PS, I did a WhatCar BMW Mini reader test team a few years ago.

    #3030

    Nosig
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    Smitchy, I don’t really understand why you have doubts about the range especially if you have experience with the Leaf. You know it matters a lot on the temperature and speed, but also on the state of the battery. It’s best to keep in mind that you’ll have 80-90% left within 5 years. 100 km is the least you can get out of it, but if it is on slower roads you should be able to get towards 150 km even in winter (I’ve read about 200 km range performed on old version Leafs). Is the trip so critical in range? You know the range will be more than the Leaf. And why not charge at your work? You can get Davide’s charger (600 euro total excl sales tax) to plug the Zoe into a 220V socket. From empty it takes about 18 hours, but if it’s about half empty the average working day should be enough to get it full or nearly full. If you can plug it into a 16A 3 pin socket (like at campings) it should be even quicker. He also has a 32A 5 pin version, if you know of powersockets at your work.

    I also still don’t understand your calculation about the Zoe being more expensive than the Leaf. Because the battery is on lease (and also with the car being cheaper), write off should be (in theory at least) a lot less for the Zoe (also because it is a much more popular model, much more attractive with much better innovative charging features).

    #3031

    Nosig
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    Concerning my own Zoe, the data on myrenault.nl still doesn’t indicate a date (I think my dealer has more info, last updates indicated week 25), but it does now say that the vehicle has just been produced and is now awaiting transport :-).

    Getting my charge wallbox (not free in Holland, will cost me at least 1000 euros) on the 31st of May. Sold my Prius today for a proper price (1.6 times the price the dealer wanted to pay for it), so I don’t have to borrow any extra money to pay my Zoe.

    The dealer got their stock of Zoe’s recently and have put a white one on display in the showroom. As far as I know demo rides should not be a problem here. I think once the early adapters got their toys the stock should be big enough quickly enough for all the dealers to have room enough for long demo rides. But I know the range will be fine for my needs, will still order Davide’s charger (still doubting between the EEC 16 and EEC 32 version (although you can put an adapter on the 32A version to plug it into a 16A camping outlet).

    I will have to get myself around with my motorcycle (ST1300A) the coming weeks (not attractive in the current winter weather), or the train or my (electric) bicycle. I’m so excited, still can’t really grasp the idea that I’ll actually be driving an electric car soon. It all started with the movie “who killed the electric car” a couple of years ago. And now here I am waiting for transport of my brand new Zoe ZE! 🙂

    #3032

    Nosig
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    Nickh, just wondering why the 17″ wheels? I think they are pretty as well, but the Michelin EV tires should get about 10% more range. For the price that one has to pay Renault to replace the 16″ with 17″ you can also just go for an EXTRA set of new aftermarket 16″ rims (next to your standard 16″ wheels) that are at least just as pretty (much more choice) and will still fit the EV tires (you could put winter tires on the stock 16″ wheels).

    Example (here in Holland), the options in 16″ wheels for the ZOE (so they will fit the EV tires) with prices in Euros per wheel: http://www.bandendirekt.com/car/car.php?cmd=search&brand=re&model=zoe&type=001&inch=16

    #3064

    smitchy73
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    @nosig, the review I read two guys had taken a Zoe out on about a 40 mile test drive, they started off with about 80 mile range, within about ten miles they were down to about 60 mile range, they were driving the car about 70mph on a dual carriageway as they were testing it for a possible fleet purchase, and it would be non EV drivers who would be using them, so he was giving it a real world test, he didn’t have heating or aircon on, and they reckoned the best they would get at that style of driving was about 60 miles, which is at the low point of what Renault has suggested, but their worst suggestion of 60miles is in the winter with heating!
    I know I’d get further than that, as would most drivers on here as we’re used to taking it that bit easier to get the range. My return journey is 65 miles with usually 20 miles remaining when I get home(depending on weather)
    I can’t charge at my work as my company, which is part of the Scottish Government won’t put a charge point in for me to use, as it would mean I would be getting a benefit from the taxpayer of free electricity which I shouldn’t be getting, I have offered to pay and my union is taking the matter further to see if they can do something.
    The Zoe on a lease from Renault will work out for me at about £340 including battery lease, the PCP I got on a generation one Leaf(outgoing model) is £225, so on a month to month basis the Leaf is cheaper, it may not be cheaper overall, but is strange that the Leaf with a list price of £27000 works out cheaper than a car with a list price of £14000. Also the value at the end of the three years for the Leaf is more than two times that of the Zoe.

    Saying all that, I still love the Zoe and I think I always will, just don’t think I’ll be getting it just now, if things don’t go too well to start with perhaps the deals will get better, who knows, it took Nissan over two years to offer decent deals, once they did they flew out the doors, now sold 60,000 worldwide.

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