The Pain of Public Charging 5

Volt charging at Bicester Village (Image: Duncan/SpeakEV.com)
Volt charging at Bicester Village (Image: Duncan/SpeakEV.com)

At the risk of these posts becoming repetitive, I have another tale of woe to relate. As twice before we took the ZOE from Northampton to Oxford to visit family, this time on Christmas Day. Previously I had popped out during the visit to use the fast charger at Peartree, but this time it was not to be.

On arriving at Peartree early in the evening it was obvious that the charger wasn’t operating as the screen was dark. I rang the Ecotricity support number only to hear that support is provided 24×7 every day of the year – except Christmas Day! I went into the services cafe and got on the free WiFi to look for other charge points. Unfortunately the area is not well catered for, and the closest fast charger was at Cherwell services on the M40, so I headed off there, keeping my speed below 50 to conserve range.

Arriving at Cherwell I found the charger easily and it was illuminated which seemed encouraging. I plugged in and started charging – but almost immediately the charging stopped, the charger turned itself off and the screen went dark. Again I went into the cafe to plan my next move. Unfortunately my range was now down to about 8 miles (and the WiFi cost £4).

I used zap-map.com to look for nearby chargers – at this point any chargers at all, not just fast ones, so long as they were within my very limited remaining range. It indicated two at Bicester, one at a Little Chef and one slightly further away at Bicester Village retail park. So I headed to the postcode given for the Little Chef with my speed limited to 15 mph, and my hazard lights on.

I found no Little Chef at the postcode given, nor one at the location given for it in the ZOE’s TomTom satnav, so I had to conclude it was an error and/or the Little Chef had gone. I now had just a few remaining miles of charge left so headed for Bicester Village at about 12mph. I found it easily enough but of course the site was closed for the night. At this point I had just 2 miles of range left, so I had no options.

Undaunted I parked up and explored through the site on foot, first past cones in the road and then further on past a barrier into a low multi-storey car park. There in the far corner I found a pair of slow charge points. I tested one with a charge point card and it was active, so I went looking for security staff. I quickly found a security guard and a charge was agreed by walkie-talkie – I walked back to get the car while he got the key to open the barrier.

The charging process went fine once connected, and then I was invited to have a tea in the management office reception. To cut a long story short, given it was a slow charger, I sat there for most of 3 hours. After that I was given a lift back to the car and minutes later I was heading back out with a nearly full charge, and very grateful to the Bicester Village staff for their help. After picking up the family we headed home and arrived without further incident.

This experience pretty much confirmed my conclusions from last time – the ZOE’s flexibility in charging is hugely useful, while the dependability of the public charging infrastructure is rubbish. It has, however, changed my mind about the ZOE having a domestic charge cable and I can now see how sometimes it could be invaluable.

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  • #6874

    woodlee
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    Hi Jit187. Thanks for that information. To be honest we have not used many public charge points at all, but the ones we have tried have all worked with the card we have, even though one car park’s chargers only had 13 amp sockets!(Obviously we didn’t charge there.)

    The issue at Wisley though is slightly different though since they have 2 charge points and 3 cards to lend (after taking a deposit) to anyone without their own, and one would think that these cards automatically would work at their own points! There would be no need for them to work on a different scheme.

    I do wonder though if the Leaf driver was placing the card on the correct spot on the charger. We were not there at the time he was trying and the driver did say that this was his first attempt at using a public charge point, so he might have been doing something wrong himself.

    #6880

    astromouse
    Participant

    The Norfolk escape route

    (I was going to add a new thread but couldn’t see how – so replying so a similar one!)

    I live just south of Norwich and the Zoe is perfect for my use to and from work and local etc but I would like to go further afield!

    On visits to bedfordshire in a petrol car I have checked charging points on the way. The direct route has a stop on the A11 before Cambridge (but only Eastbound, not westbound and when I tried it it was not working. An email to chargemaster returned NOTHING), then there is a convienient charge point off the A14 just into cambridge at the science park (but I have no idea where it is and gave up driving round it).

    The problem I have, sorry HAD, was the range from my house to Cambridge (just out of reach I think) so it left me stranded in Norfolk.

    But…

    On a journey home last weekend I stopped in Bury St Edmunds. waitrose has charging points and they work!

    So I can now leave home, 42 ish miles to Bury St Edmunds, then 62 ish to Bedford and there are bound to be points in Cambridge and beyond!

    Can anyone let me know if the 50% charge in 30 mins really works? (Is it up to 50% or 50% extra?)

    Thank you!

    #6883

    Trevor Larkum
    Keymaster

    [To create a new topic you have to go into the appropriate forum first (e.g. ZOE News and Discussion), as listed at the top of the Forums page, then you’ll see the edit box available at the bottom of each forum page].

    I’m not sure what you mean by ‘50% charge in 30 mins’, I think you’ve misunderstood – there is an ‘80% charge in 30 minutes’ provided by 43kW fast chargers such as the Ecotricity ones (available at motorway services and IKEA stores).

    They work much like your home charger but at high current, except batteries can’t accept fast charging when they are nearly full so they slow down above about 80%. You can still charge to 100% but the last bit will be at a similar speed to your home system (e.g. 7kW) rather than 43kW. The ‘80% charge in 30 minutes’ is just a way to market them – although it’s true, you’ll typically use them as ‘100% charge in 45 minutes’.

    Of course, if you turn up with 80% charge already, you’ll only get charged at the low speed!

    #6907

    Trevor Larkum
    Keymaster

    A long distance trip in France with a ZOE – it seems we should be grateful for Ecotricity’s public chargers here, I certainly wouldn’t want to rely on Renault dealers:

    A return Strasbourg / Brest Renault ZOE

    #6916

    andyfras
    Participant

    I had to collect something at short notice last night and I wasn’t confident that there was enough charge remaining, so I decided to go via Fleet Services on the Southbound M3. I arrived just as a Leaf owner was connecting to the Ecotricity rapid charger. As he was using a different connector, I thought I would be able to go ahead, but I couldn’t find any way to do this. The only button active on the screen was ‘Stop Charging’ (tempting). I tried waving my card at it for a while, but to no avail.

    I couldn’t afford the time to wait for him to return, so I carried on with my journey, which I managed to complete using ECO mode.

    Can an Ecotricity charger only charge one car at a time? If so, why are there 2 bays?

    #6929

    londonmatt001
    Participant

    Hi andyfras,

    The Ecotricity fast charger can only handle one car at a time.
    I had a similar issue and when I phoned them, they told me that the charger can only handle 50kw max.
    The reason for the two cables is simply that they are different connectors.

    I think they should up the output, as EV’s become more popular or that the charger knows that a second car is connected and split the power between them.

    #6931

    andyfras
    Participant

    Thanks for the explanation. I think I’ll stick with home charging in future, as it’s (mostly) less stressful. 🙂

    #6938

    Trevor Larkum
    Keymaster

    My advice would be to start using public chargers even (particularly?) when you don’t need to just to get use to them and their foibles.

    #6939

    londonmatt001
    Participant

    I always try and use public chargers, provided they are working, or they accept the Rfid card or they might be working but for some reason don’t accept the Zoe (something I noticed a lot using Source London).

    I will always charge the car at home before setting off, and then top up wherever I am. Even if it is just 1kw, at least I didn’t have to pay for it at home.

    I have tried doing it the other way round and charge at Asda when I do my shopping and then top up at home, but they are always ICE’d up, usually by staff. Despite numerous emails to Asda customer service, nothing really has changed. I told them that if the bays are not available, they might as well remove the chargers.

    The other day I wanted to charge using the charger in Park Street near Borough Market and it was ICE’d up and the owner must have thought it is ok, as they put a disabled badge on.

    I mainly rely on the Ecotricity charger and soon there will be an Ikea about 2 miles from my house, so that will become my main charging point. Just need them to install one near Stansted, and then I am a happy bunny.

    #6943

    jit187
    Participant

    most councils and government bodies such as OLEV monitor how much public charge points are used. we should try to use these as much as possible even if its only for a short period as this still counts are usuage activity.

    Most councils and gov agencies are making decisions based on how much the current charge points are being used so we really should try to ‘boost’ the usuage to “justify” further investment etc.

    this is something i found out through my local council when i asked about how they decide on charge point locations!

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