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In reply to: Holding Charge
Always wondered about that. I assumed the motor/traction battery topped up the 12v battery. If it doesn’t then surely a good long drive in winter and night and you’d be goosed before you know it.
Topic: BG Wall-Box Email
Hello all. I placed an order for a new Zoe PCP deal (from my local Renault dealer) and today I received an email from BG:
Click on the link below to receive your Wall-Box.Dear xxxx
Now that you have ordered your new Renault ZOE you are able to have a domestic Wall-Box fitted at your home. Its 7kW capacity means that your ZOE’s battery can be recharged from completely flat to 100% in just three to four hours, and Z.E. Ready certification means it’ll work perfectly with your car.
In order to receive your Wall-Box, we need you to fill in your details and accept the terms and conditions using the link below;
Order my ZOE Wall-Box
When I click on the link, it asks me for my surname and a Customer Order Number.
I’ve tried the order numbers Renault have provided and they don’t work. I contacted BG and they say to ignore that email!
Anyone know what number I’m meant to enter in the customer order number box?
In reply to: Holding Charge
Its the 12volt battery my dealer told me to watch out for – that powers things like the central locking and will eventually go flat.
Thanks to the slow charging, I don’t expect them to be too much of an issue on the Motorway Ecotricity chargers as the 2 hours will add too long to a journey.
They do 50kW CHAdeMO! Why do people keep saying this? They charge at a faster rate than ZOE (50kW vs 43kW) on rapids and only have half the battery to charge! 😛
We should be pleased that people are taking steps into hybrids, even if they are baby steps. The PHEV version of the Outlander does well over twice the miles per gallon of fuel. Sure, it’s not a pure EV, but it’s better than an Diesel Outlander that the owners probably would’ve otherwise bought.
Maybe we should target the hate at actual full-on diesel Outlander drivers first? 😛
The mitsubushi taxlander is a great big pile of fraudulent ev. Autocar magazine had one and it averaged 42mpg over 12months.Its a great big gas guzzling suv that has a battery to cleverly get it through government emissions testing.
Don’t hold back 😉
They should be banned on rapids, sat there sipping 3kw while depriving bev from finishing their journey.
They do 50kW CHAdeMo, and the default Leaf charger is only 3kW? Given the battery is half the size, that means a full charge is only 50% of the time of a Leaf in both cases (and the same as the Leaf if it’s a 6kW version charging on AC).
So, in no cses it seems are they a worse vehicle to be on a charger than a Leaf?
Come on; if we’re going to slag cars off, it should at least be based on facts. It’s far better that people are driving these than pure petrol/diesel cars. Let’s stop being elitist jerks.
The mitsubushi taxlander is a great big pile of fraudulent ev. Autocar magazine had one and it averaged 42mpg over 12months.Its a great big gas guzzling suv that has a battery to cleverly get it through government emissions testing. To date OiLEV have invested nearly £35 million in these pointless cars. I’m hoping new VED rates and reduced picg grants will see the end of the. Mitsubishi don’t supply owners with the appropriate cables and have not contributed towards the uk charge network. Not even the dealers have charge points. They should be banned on rapids, sat there sipping 3kw while depriving bev from finishing their journey. If you suffer from range anxiety, why buy a car with such a small battery. For the price of a taxlander you could have a zoe and a patrol car with £10k left over. A totally pointless vehicle.
and there is Leaf and an Outlander, the Outlander will be supping at something ridiculous like 3kw, maybe 6kw. And you’ll just have to sit.
It’s no different to a Leaf. The Outlander will use CHAdeMO and get 50kW, or AC and get 7kW. This is better than the Leaf, which most likely gets 3kW! So you’re better off waiting for an Outlander using AC than a Leaf 🙂
Previous Outlander had a 2.4 petrol CVT.
Ah, ofcourse; I forgot about them 🙂
From speaking to few mitsubishi dealers I think these are mainly selling as company cars since they were exempt from company car tax until this tax year.
Yup, this was a company car. He said the company car tax is still a fraction of his colleagues Audis and BMWs! (Which to be fair, if it’s doing 90mpg like he says; that’s more than double the 40mpg my Megane did, and it’s a beast!!).
To me hybrids don’t make sense.
At the simplest level, how on earth can it be efficient to carry about a petrol engine and an electric motor, and have both a petrol tank and a battery.
I always thought the same, but *90mpg*. If an Outlander can do 90mpg, what can a range-extended small car do? For people with concerns about range that won’t buy a BEV, I’d highly recommend a range-extended (or even a traditional hybrid) over a traditional fuel car. Yes, more to go wrong; but the efficiency is way higher than I expected. I’m surprised if you got 80mpg out of a Civic… really starting to wonder if there was something up with my Megane! It was 40mpg on the motorways, and 40mpg to/from work. Never changed :/
Series Hybrid mode activates when the battery charge is low or when battery is deplated.In this mode the engine runs to charge the battery, which provides power to the wheels.
Aha! So he wasn’t completely mistaken then! Looking back at the website, it’s quite clear now; I just didn’t click around enough. This is probably how it gets his 90mpg then; running an engine at constant revs to charge a battery will likely be way more efficient than driving the car. Well spotted 🙂
There are three different driving modes. Pure EV, Series Hybrid and Parallel Hybrid. Pure EV mode powers the wheels directly from the Electric Motor and the vehicle can be driven at speeds of up to 74mph up to 32miles. Series Hybrid mode activates when the battery charge is low or when battery is deplated.In this mode the engine runs to charge the battery, which provides power to the wheels. In Parallel Hybrid mode the engine drives the wheels directly, which activates when extra power needed (accelerate quickly /high speed overtaking/high speed motoring).
The PHEV will automatically select the most optimum drive mode for comfortable driving while providing superior fuel efficiency.
To me hybrids don’t make sense.
At the simplest level, how on earth can it be efficient to carry about a petrol engine and an electric motor, and have both a petrol tank and a battery.
There’s a reason PHEVs are so expensive… For the propulsion side of the car you’re buying two cars, and some very complex technology to make it all work together in one chassis and body.
And all that complexity and weight to achieve 90mpg? Hardly ground breaking. Our simple but efficient diesel Civic does 80mpg. An extra £10k on the price tag to achieve an extra 10mpg doesn’t seem worth it.
Come to think of it, for the price of a Mitsubishi PHEV you could buy a Civic and a Zoe. Use the Civic diesel doing 80mpg for long distance, and the Zoe for local and commuting.
Biggest selling car under the OLEV scheme…..
It has different modes – it can run using a mix of ICE / electric or on battery power alone.
Know someone who has one and he thinks it’s rubbish and wish he never got it. Mainly due poor build quality / finish and an electric only range more like 28 miles only. Eats tyres apparently too.
It can do rapid charging, but only on the DC CHAadMO charger type. One cool feature is it can do DC or AC charging (it can accept a type 2 cable also).
