I believe it runs on battery for you to 39miles then runs in petrol.
Also found out the Outlanders don’t come with a cable for standard charging posts. So expect to see Outlanders hogging rapid chargers all over the country. Plus I don’t even think they charge at rapid rates, so it really is a hog.
We went to IKEA today, and there was a guy plugging an Outlander in looking confused. Turned out, he didn’t have a card, so he asked if he could use mine. I suggested it might not work as I was already charging my car (not sure if you can use the same card to charge multiple cars at the same time?) and sure enough, it errored when we tried to use it. He popped inside and managed to get a card from someone at IKEA.
Anyway, we were chatting away, and he was telling people that stopped that his Outlander always ran electric, and just had a small petrol engine to charge the battery when required.
Is this true? I thought it was a traditional hybrid, and I just had a quick look online, but couldn’t really find much conclusive, except on the main site “The petrol engine provides most of the power, with assistance from the motors when required. This is used only for high-speed motoring.”
So, has this guy totally misunderstood how his PHEV works?
He claims to be getting 90mpg from it “even when it’s out of battery” which sounds pretty amazing (and made me think maybe he was right that the petrol engine just charged the battery – sounds way too high to just run as a normal dirty engine? but alas, the interwebs don’t seem to agree). I used to get 40mpg from my Megane… WTF?
Granted as an overall package the new deals are very good, but to 30p quoted excess battery rental needs clarification from RCI before I am totally happy.
The 30ppm excess is only on the 3K (750 per quarter) mile contract. The others are 7.5ppm. I have attached a battery rental agreement (with the details blacked out) so you have a read. This was printed off the system today and talks about an excess of £4.50 per 100 miles or part thereof, so it is technically variable. At a minimum it will be 4.5p (£4.50/100) at its maximum it is 8.91p (£9/101).
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Replace the blown fuse? 😉
Normally when showing someone the Zoe I stick it in “normal” mode and boot it. The motor makes enough noise that it’s not silent, but the rush of acceleration always entertains folk. Until they notice multiples of miles falling away from the “battery” icon lol.
Thanks for the answers. I was planning to keep key in my pocket, my wife keep hers in her handbag, I was just checking I was not missing out on any charging the key battery or any other features.
On Zap-map there is a charger advertised as more than 2kw near a supermarket near me. I’ve had a feeling it’s kicking out way more than 7kw.
What do you think of my pic? Evolt wall mounted, said only 1 hour 20 to charge a battery with —miles remaining at 7%.
11.5kw delivered from unit in 31mins, sounds 22kw to me.
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wda97c, your logic agrees with me. At the £299 discount rate they had at the beginning of the year justified it if oyu were going to get stung for the service & battery at hand back.
I wasn’t sure if you were throwing back if car worth less than GFV then it might need the service to be suitable to return.
Anyhow the cost of 3 services & new battery at local dealer is £380.00 so £399.00 is bad deal.
I thought we had a problem like this with one of our demos when we had a new 22kW point installed. I plugged it in showing 54% charged and it showed it would take 1:35 to charge. When I queried this with Renault Technical they could look at the actual charging logs and told me that in the 30 mins we had it plugged in it went from 54%->86% at an average of 18.4kW but at 80% charge the vehicle charge would reduce charging power to condition the battery so from the 54%->80% it will have been drawing greater than 22kW.
Now since this full charge it has never shown charge times that were this long. We are assuming it is because while our 22kW unit was being fixed I was using the granny lead a lot during the day so whether this has lead to a longer conditioning time.
I suppose the main point I should be making is that if you are unsure as to whether it is working properly and the dealer can not give an adequate explanation then if you can give them the dates and times it was plugged in they should be able to contact Renault Technical and check on the exact charging rates.
So the consensus is that because the battery still had 42% it would not charge at 22kWh ?
No, absolutely not! Unless your batteries are somehow really unbalanced (which doesn’t sound the case if your car shows 42% after 64 miles – I reckon the reported % should be the percent in the lowest-charged battery cell) I would expect the full rate for most of the charge (I do not see what Sandy is suggesting – I’ve often charged from over 50% and got rapid rates). I used Rapids for three weeks before my home charger was replaced, and it was always 43kW until at least 80%!
Are you able to test your car on the same post as another car? Eg. get the Renault garage to do 30 mins on a demo car and yours (both below 80%) and compare? Posts charging slower than expected isn’t uncommon; but if you’re hittingit all the time, something might be up.
Btw, I see a discrepancy of 10% in SoC when parking at work and returning to the car, so sadly that number isn’t accurate either. There’s another thread about this; but none of the theories really add up 🙁