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March 21, 2015 at 22:21 #14370
In reply to: RANGE SURVEY
Charged here is tomorrow’s firgures:
Welcome Craig Tonge,
21/03/2015 21:59.
Your current battery level is 100% with an estimated driving distance of 85.1 mile.March 21, 2015 at 20:01 #14365In reply to: RANGE SURVEY
I am getting 80+ at the moment seems to be doing very well.
Just got a status update from car on charge for you and it says:
Battery level: 63%
Estimated range: 52.2 mile
Checked on: 21/03/2015 19:57So could be 85-90 tomorrow and I have been driving hard ish tonight. 3.89Mpkwh on dash 3.89 x22 = 85mile range..
Craig
1) no battery lease – battery included in price
ZOE has this option too!
The things that put me off it are a) the price and b) external looks. I’m sure it’s an awesome car otherwise!
I’m a big fan of pure EVs, but I think range extenders are a great idea for people that need the extra range more frequently. If I couldn’t get by on a pure EV, I would definitely want a REV. You get many of the advantages of driving electric (quiet, smooth, consistent power, no gears) but still have the ability for frequent long journeys without the worry of charging.
(that said; I don’t know if the Range Extender compromises the battery range? If they swap half the batteries for a fuel tank, it’s probably not such an awesome deal; you won’t get to find out how likely you could’ve done without the extender!)
Not just looks but IS amazing Astromouse! Hubby & I very tempted but I didn’t like the interior one bit. Very ‘Swampy up a tree’ feel about it! Very very fast though.
So yes the battery is included on the plus and it is guaranteed for something like 8 years but then the higher price of £25k+ reflects this. You need to pay for your cable etc.
We wouldn’t personally be interested in a range extender. Our feeling is that an electric car is either for you or it isn’t. Electric only keeps things simple.
Personally I think they are a bit of a hairdressers car. I like the battery lease and would not consider buying a battery with the way the tech is going. It’s not a real ev as it still has an engine. A mate of mine has got one and he’s ok with it however, he says the tyres are so hard and so skinny that it’s impossible to stop.
Everyone for their own but I wouldn’t swap my zoe for it let alone pay 3 times as much for an i3.
March 21, 2015 at 15:50 #14352Topic: BMW i3
in forum Zoe News and DiscussionI am tempted by the dark side.
The BMW i3 looks amazing and has everything that the Zoe does as well as two key factors:
1) no battery lease – battery included in price
2) range extender with small ICE – in practice this would only be used rarely for me but is very usefulWhat do you all think?
If anyone else has crossed this bridge, how did BMW help with Renault finance etc.
March 21, 2015 at 15:48 #14350In reply to: RANGE SURVEY
Very Very similar to me.
You can expect better in the summer with a nice warm battery 🙂
I often reset my trip a mile from home – on the slow roads it shows a lovely high range which is still reflected in the morning.
March 20, 2015 at 12:36 #14322In reply to: Charging Issues?
I notice our Power NI company are withdrawing the overnight economy 7 service to new customers,not a great incentive to switch from petrol?
I wouldn’t say so; electric is way cheaper than petrol even if paying standard rates for it.
However, as more people get EVs, power companies will almost certainly increase discounts for offpeak electric. I suspect long term, they might even offer the ability for us to set a time window for charging our cars, and let the energy provider or substation control when it chargers and at what rate (I’m sure someone is running a trial like this now).
It’s in the energy companies/National Grid’s interest to level out energy usage (turning power stations on/off is expensive), and they know they need to motivate you if they want you to change when you use electric – it’s far more convenient to just plugin when you get home at 5:30pm and star charging your car (that’s my plan), and that means you’re draining power going into their peak hours!
There’s an interesting Fully Charger episode about the National Grid here:
The increase in renewables only makes their job harder (wind and solar fluctuate, whereas coal power stations are pretty consistent), trying to balance production against demand!
There are also a few companies (Ecotricity mentioned their “black box”, Tesla I believe are working on something similar) wanting us to have batteries in our houses. That will also allow leveling out energy usage (slowly charge while demand is low, then use the battery when demand is high).
https://www.ecotricity.co.uk/about-ecotricity/eco-labs/the-black-box
http://cleantechnica.com/2015/02/21/tesla-home-battery-way/March 20, 2015 at 09:09 #14313In reply to: Charging Issues?
Hi Chapinch,sorry to hear you are like the rest of us Zoe owners. I have been raising this BCI issue since before the Zoe was available, I bought an early one in 2013.(Around a two year period)
As I have repeatedly posted in various places ,Renault always knew this was a problem. Their early diagnosis was “Dirty Electricity”, the power company N.I.E reluctantly mentioned it might be related to an earth problem when the reading was above 150 Ohms.
As posted above 50% of CPs in my area will not, and may never charge a Zoe.
Sadly my way round this is never to leave home without enough battery life to get me home, I am fortunate in this respect, given the distances involved, but few folk could live with this situation. I have never found a charging issue with the single phase 32 Amp home charger, and once they start asking us to pay for the CPs in the street, I will probably ignore them and just charge at home. So far its been free in the street, but I wonder what will happen the whole charging infrastructure if we all charge mostly at home. I notice our Power NI company are withdrawing the overnight economy 7 service to new customers,not a great incentive to switch from petrol?March 20, 2015 at 06:48 #14304In reply to: Does the ZOE have a charge reminder?
It’s now a low battery warning I was asking about; as @dexter1979 says, you’re always driving when you run it down! The Leaf’s thing seems to be a reminder to connect as you’re nearing a certain destination, just to avoid you getting out the car and forgetting to plug in (eg. because kids come running, or you’re getting something out the boot, etc.!).
I’m sure I’ll manage; just seemed like a thoughtful feature 😀
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Topic: BMW i3
I am tempted by the dark side.
The BMW i3 looks amazing and has everything that the Zoe does as well as two key factors:
1) no battery lease – battery included in price
2) range extender with small ICE – in practice this would only be used rarely for me but is very usefulWhat do you all think?
If anyone else has crossed this bridge, how did BMW help with Renault finance etc.