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In reply to: Something has changed? 100 miles range
Lol you need to clue yourself up on Android, its neither efficient or particularly effective in some of its features.
Who? I’m pretty clued up on Android. I never said it was efficient! It’s a perfect example for how software can affect battery usage though… One day your battery will last 24 hours, and the next day YouTube will drain it in 5; even though you never actually opened YouTube!
Software developers are lazy… It’s rare things are well optimised initially; there’s always tons of room for improvement!
In reply to: New member – ordered an Intens, getting cold feet
2) Battery Hire! Renault.co.uk quotes 4.5p per mile.
That cost is likely for PCP, the battery hire charge is 35p/mile! My sales guy didn’t seem to even know about it until I asked him to confirm 🙁
3) The wall box. … If i only get GPRS, will the operation of the wallbox and thusly the charging of the car / ze services be flakey?
I expect the antenna and power to the wallbox are greater than your mobile; so it could work much better. I believe the data is only for reporting stats back to the Gov’t, so if you can get past the check and get it installed; if the connection is ropey it shouldn’t affect your use at all 🙂
Hi all
I stumbled across this forum today after doing some finer research beyond the basic ‘range’ ‘vehicle spec’ stuff. A little bit about me now. This would be a 3rd Renault car for me, the 1st two being RS Clios. I am trading in a BMW 1series coupe diesel that is costing me £100 a month in fuel. My commute is a 20 mile round trip and we have an ICE car as a 2nd car. There is no doubt in my mind an EV would work in my household. However…
Having read this forum I have been made aware of a number of things the dealer absolutely should have gone through with me.
1) Battery hire. I knew it existed but I thought it was all one payment for the car and battery. I have learned it’s two payments which is slightly irritating. No big for some, but i like my DD’s on my account to be in order and to a minimum.
2) Battery Hire! I have gone for the 7500 mile option at £50 per month. I was vaguely aware that excess mileage was payable. No problem, I have never paid excess mileage on any car I have traded in or handed back. I have however learned that the Zoe beams back mileage over the air to Renault who will flirt me a bill should I go over. I’d prefer to just deal with it when i trade the car back in. Renault.co.uk quotes 4.5p per mile.
3) The wall box. I did not know it needed an o2 signal. I am on o2 for my mobile and at my home address the phone displays no more than ‘GPRS’ as an internet connection. I am up a hill a little bit but not ‘cut off’. My concern is this. If i only get GPRS, will the operation of the wallbox and thusly the charging of the car / ze services be flakey?
The dealer really should have gone through this with me. While I have done plenty reading on the car, i believe it is the responsibility of the dealer to explain the finer details. This is where Renault fall down (remember i have renault experience) and it is where BMW are excellent.
I might cancel.
In reply to: Problem
Yes, reset everything – try plugging into your wall box overnight for updates etc.
Once it worked ok for me all fine.
Another time it didnt and had to get recovery – jump started 12V battery and then next day had to go into repairs for replacement items.
In reply to: Buying ZOE for export.
In Estonia it is sold with battery lease. And i’m also using it in Estonia :). Here is a deal with a battery rent for 5 years included: http://www.abcmotors.ee/soodus;car/498
After 5 years you simply need to extend itIn reply to: Buying ZOE for export.
Ow 🙂
I`m actually looking into bringing my to Ukraine, so r-link in russian is ok 🙂
how did you manage the “battery lease”?
did you buy full price from estonia?In reply to: Buying ZOE for export.
In the UK you can buy the ZOE with the battery:
http://brochures.renault.co.uk/pdf/zoe.pdf
Page 11 “HOW IT WORKS – FULL PURCHASE”.I don’t know what’s involved in buying from Germany though. You could try contacting a UK dealer and see if they’re able to help.
In reply to: Buying ZOE for export.
There is no Renault ZOE in Norway for sale 🙁
I already talking with few dealers, they don’t offer the car with battery included.
Maybe somebody knows any dealer in EU that is selling it, give me his contact info and I`ll one from him!
ThanksIn reply to: RANGE SURVEY
When you think about it; we can’t make energy for free. Regen braking is just converting the existing momentum (kinetic energy) from the car back into the battery. In a perfect world the most it could get back would be the same amount needed to travel as far as the car would’ve rolled without braking. In reality, the regen is inefficient, the motor is not 100% efficient, so for every 100m of distance you take away by regen braking you only get a portion of it back in the battery.
Of course, as I said, it’s unlikely you could ever completely avoid using the brakes and coast to a stop. However, by knowing how it works; you can increase your range by tickling the throttle and slowing down without the regen brake. Obviously, if you do this and then end up having to slam on and use the friction brakes because you’re overshooting traffic lights, those gains will be lost. However, if you have a long distance to slow down (eg. motorway sliproad, coming down from 70 to 20) and can avoid the regen activating, you’re increasing your range 🙂
In reply to: Buying ZOE for export.
Why pay for lease if I just want to charge it at home
The lease has nothing to do with charging. You either buy or lease the battery. In both cases, you need to charge the battery somewhere, there’s no difference if you’re charging at home or not.
The extra cost for buying the battery is greater than the monthly payments on the lease (though at the end of the term, the car is worth more too). If you can’t buy the “i” version in Germany, you’d have to import it from somewhere else. I don’t know what the complications of this are.
The latest brochure I could find on the German Renault site was Sept 2014. In the UK, the Sept 2014 brochure also *did not* have battery ownership; only January’s was it added. I wonder if you can get the latest brochure for Germany, maybe it’s an option there now too?
