Travelling Internationally With the ZOE – Part 1

Waiting for the ferry (Image: Surya)
Waiting for the ferry (Image: Surya)

Two weeks ago I went on a road trip of about a week with my ZOE. It was kind of a last minute decision as a free time slot came available and stress levels at work were high. We had the ZOE for about a month by then so we did have some experience with the car, we had put about 2000km on the odometer. But a road trip is not something we had done yet. In fact I hadn’t traveled outside the range of the car a single time (I don’t normally need to).

To prepare I went to a public charger in Belgium to make sure the charge card I had for Belgium worked. I would have to charge once in Belgium, in De Panne, close to the border of France. I had also received an Ecotricity card, but I didn’t have any other charge cards for the UK and I had ran out of time to order any. They simply wouldn’t arrive in time. I phoned Trevor to talk about the feasibility of the trip with just an Ecotricity card. We agreed that if we didn’t divert from the Electric Highway too much, we should be fine.

The day before we left I got the great news that the ‘granny cable’ to charge from domestic sockets had arrived and I could pick it up. This added an extra charge option just in case, which increased my confidence.

To get to the Electric Highway would be about 60km from Dover, where the ferry would land. To get to the ferry in Calais would be about 60km from the charger in De Panne, so well within the range of the car if I didn’t do anything crazy. The De Panne charger itself is a 22kW unit about 100km from my house. So I had to charge for about an hour to be full enough to make it to the Ecotricity charger on the M2 in Medway. To be sure I bought a flex ticket for the ferry in case we’d run late. And we did. Not because of technical reasons, we just left too late.

The trip to De Panne went smooth, the charger was easily found and free and worked. The car was full in about 40 minutes, charging from a remaining 64km. The car had predicted more time but we also stopped charging at 99%. I noticed the car keeps on charging very fast up until then, and then it takes a very long time to finish that last percent. For the rest of the trip I would always cut off at 99%. It’s simply not worth the extra time.

For the trip to Calais we didn’t take the motorway but a parallel road with speeds of 70km/h and 90km/h, as proposed by the GPS when selecting eco-route. That is something else we would use for most of the trip as usually it isn’t that much slower but it can make a big difference on range.

Coming off the ferry, we entered the postal code for the M2 charger. We knew we could make it, as we had 60km to go and 90km of range left. Clearly not a problem, but the car thought otherwise, constantly proposing to add a charger along the route, sometimes multiple times in a single minute. A bit annoying.

First charge of the trip (Image: Surya)
First charge of the trip (Image: Surya)

We arrived at the charger with 28km of range left. The charger on our side of the road was down, as indicated by the Ecotricity website, so that wasn’t a surprise. But there is a public bridge just past the services so going to the other side wasn’t a problem, and that charger worked fine. This was our very first quick charge, and man, that is indeed quick! The car was full (that is, 99%) in less than half an hour.

Charging at Clackett Lane (Image: Surya)
Charging at Clackett Lane (Image: Surya)

We did a second quick charge in Clacket Lane to take us to the Gatwick area where we stayed in a B&B for the night.

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  • #10201

    Dexter1979
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    I actually have a the New Motion card on the way to my house at the moment 🙂

    It will be used to charge up around my parents house. Looking at driving distances I think I will be going through Harwich. It means I got from the Electric Highway in the Uk to the FastNed network in Holland. So driving to my parents should cost me nothing! Cost me about €200 last time in my Prius. Must keep in mind to mention this to my wife who has not really been won over by Zoe yet 🙂

    Thanks for the swift reply, Surya! Looking forward to the posts about your international travels!

    #10202

    GJ
    Participant

    The New Motion card is a good choice as described by Surya. Only “a number” is not a good description, “nearly all” will fit better. In Belgium, Germany and Austria it will work with a lot chargers. Check their site http://www.thenewmotion.com At the moment TNM and Fastned are rapidly rolling out there fastcharge network. TNM has recently deployed their 32 fastchargers and Fastned is opening a fastcharge station a week. Fastned requires the Fastned-app. The http://www.ac-lader.nl will give you an up to date status of fastchargers in the Netherlands and Belgium.
    When driving to and in the Netherlands you can post any question about how to drive in English on the Renault forum http://www.renaultforum.nl and post in the “Opladen ZOE” section.

    #10209

    GJ
    Participant

    The link of the Renault forum brings you to the startsite. Better use this one: http://www.renaultforum.nl/forum/zoe-z-e.html The Fastned link of Trevor doesn’t work, use this one: http://www.fastned.nl

    #10210

    Trevor Larkum
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    My link is to the English version of the Fastned site – it works for me from here.

    #10211

    Dexter1979
    Participant

    Dutch won’t be a problem as I’m Dutch myself 😉

    I am not worried about driving in Holland. It’s the bits in Belgium that I am unfamiliar with so I think I will bypass that. If the Rapid Charge network expansion in the UK happens on schedule I should be able to get on the ferry in Harwich with a good amount of km left and using no more than the Ecotricity chargers to do it.

    There is a FastNed station open about 25km from Hook of Holland. By the time I am due to travel there should be a lot more if they keep up the pace they currently have! It will be a great network. 200 rapid chargers in a small flat country like that mean 0 range anxiety! I visited a 2 of their stations when I was over in September. Very impressive. The open WiFi at each station means I only need the app to get charging. No need to order a RFID card. I just have TheNewMotion card to use the charging stations near my parents and other in other towns. I don’t plan on having a granny cable for this reason. There are a few 22kW points just down the street.

    #10212

    Dexter1979
    Participant

    The http://www.ac-lader.nl will give you an up to date status of fastchargers in the Netherlands and Belgium.

    This I didn’t know and could be very handy. http://www.oplaadpalen.nl also seems to be a good site. As was noted here before I do belief that the network is expanding so rapidly that websites can’t keep up!! The power output is also incorrect for a few.

    Anyone know how to add a TomTom .ov2 file to the sat nav? you can download all the charge points on oplaadpalen.nl as a TomTom .ov2 file but I have no idea how to add this to the EU maps (if at all).

    Really wish we were able to plan a route on the tomtom website and send it to the R-Link like the Carwings site for the Nissan Leaf.

    OK, rant over. 🙂

    #10215

    andyfras
    Participant

    Anyone know how to add a TomTom .ov2 file to the sat nav?

    I have been trying to do this for some time. There is a French website that has a PC program called R-Link Explorer which can read and write to a R-Link SD card, but it’s not a simple matter:

    http://www.tomtomax.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40484 (run it through a translator)

    I have tried to use 3rd party speed camera verbal warnings (rather than meaningless beeps), but although I can load the OV2, bmp, and ogg files, the R-Link version of TomTom forgets the warning distances after a few hours. If you only need OV2 POIs, it should work OK.

    Be warned, the translator changes POIs to ‘peas’ 😉

    #10216

    Dexter1979
    Participant

    Be warned, the translator changes POIs to ‘peas’ 😉

    Can’t really blame it since the proper notation should be P.O.I. Pois are indeed peas 🙂

    I was looking at your post in a different part of this forum and I must look into mounting the SD card in Linux and see if I’m able to do a bit of hacking with the maps, etc. I had to bring my Windows installation up to speed just to update R-Link. A process which took longer than the actual updating of R-Link! 🙂

    #10220

    GJ
    Participant

    @trevor: clicking on your link returns a blanc page to me, never mind.
    @dexter: the AC-lader map is quite accurate and up to date because it’s maintained by users of the Renault forum (the ZOE drivers), supervised by MartijnEV who’s the actual owner of the map. Also the Belgium part is accurate, thanks to the Belgian contributors.
    For the TomTom questions: it’s not an answer to the actual question, but I find http://www.goingelectric.de/stromtankstellen/routenplaner/ very helpfull. It covers the German speaking country’s but it containers the major chargers in most european country’s. You can import chargers, and then plan your journey with these chargers. You can export POIs when you are a forum member. Import in RLink through the Renault RLink PCapp will remain a dream I suppose as Renault isn’t even capable to make the RLink work properly.

    #10221

    Surya
    Participant

    Don’t worry about Belgium. Every bigger city has at least one 22kW charger, most of them more, conveniently located in designated parking spaces in places where people park anyways. This means you will find one about every 30km. Most of the ones you will find are from BlueCorner, which work with the New Motion card. But there are very few 43kW ones, it’s almost exclusively 22kW.

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