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May 13, 2013 at 13:30 #2839
AnonymousInsurance rates are often more to do with you than your car. For instance, you can often get lower quotes by claiming you do business miles – do more miles and get a lower quote! In the grand scheme of things, the risk of paying out £15,000 vs £20,000 isn’t that different.
What does surprise me is that the quotes all seem to be based on treating the car as an ICE vehicle. The profile of your average top-spec Clio driver is somewhat different from your average EV enthusiast and with a reduced range, reduced street cred (no loud noises when you accelerate, for instance) and the ability for Renault to remotely disable (and, in fact track the location) of the car you can’t really evaluate the risk of the Zoe in the same way as a Clio.
Anyone heard anything from Leaf owners on best insurance deals, tips and experiences?
May 13, 2013 at 13:57 #2840
AnonymousI called Renault Insurance and they said that you need to insure the car at a price before the PICG (£20,043.33), plus the battery cost (£7,392) for a whopping total of £27,435.33, and that’s before metallic paint or anything else.
Renault Insurance couldn’t give me a quote as my postcode is too new, and they said they’d give me a call back after talking to the underwriters. I called Admiral, and the guy on the phone put me on hold to defer to his manager, and then after five minutes of waiting the call got cut off.
The (very helpful and pleasant) chap at Renault said it was unlikely that just adding the battery price to another insurer’s quote would be sufficient to cover the battery as per the terms of the lease agreement.
May 13, 2013 at 14:53 #2844Seems like Renault has put battery leasing in place to remove the perceived issue that people will have with battery life but have actually created a much larger issue for customers and insurers with the terms of the battery lease. They need to rethink this now or Zoe sales will stop dead in the water. I don’t think any of this information is provided at the time of order, so I think people could legitimately cancel their orders on the basis of not disclosing full details.
May 13, 2013 at 15:03 #2846
AnonymousThe gentleman at Renault Insurance called me back and said he’d asked their “affinity manager” (who deals with the Renault relationship) to get a Renault Customer Services manager to call me about the experience of discovering this insurance ballache. I’m hoping that I can make it clear that this is a pitfall that will hit every Zoe owner, whether they realise it or not.
I don’t hold out much hope for the Zoe launch, as this is the sort of decision that would take an age to remedy – a change in the T&Cs would dramatically change the risk model they’ve agreed to, and so would need the kind of high-level sign-off that won’t come quickly.
May 13, 2013 at 16:26 #2848
AnonymousJust got this from RCI:
What you have proposed is absolutely fine however you would need to notify your insurance provider that both a chassis and a battery are to be covered, as long as you do this that would be fine.
If you require anything further please dont hesitate to ask.
My original email:
It has been suggested that having an insurance premium for a total value of the cost of the Zoe (ignoring PICG) plus the battery price would be enough to satisfy the terms of the battery lease, without needing to explicitly have insurance for the battery.
Could you please confirm with someone at RCI whether this arrangement would satisfy the terms of the lease?
May 13, 2013 at 17:28 #2849Thank you Deejay, thats great news! No need to faf with an extra insurance and hopefully much less cost too. To be safe I may also ask for this in writing from Renault and RCI.
May 13, 2013 at 18:45 #2850I was also under the impression the car needed to be valued at the full cost before PICG. However when I called a few weeks ago Renault insurance said the fact I was insuring the car for more than I was paying for it meant I was covering the batter value.
All very interesting as the PICG is only about £4100 on an intens, the battery being £7300.
May 13, 2013 at 19:16 #2852
AnonymousNote: The numbers on how much needs paying are from me, not RCI: I was taking the value of an Intens from the website before PICG.
The reply from RCI suggests that we need some kind of explicit confirmation from the insurer that the premium covers both the chassis and the battery; I don’t think we’re out of the woods yet. I can imagine a whole heap of insurers shrugging their shoulders rather than putting the effort into figuring out if they can do it. As is unsurprising before I got cut off from Admiral, the guy had to get his manager as he’d “never had to do an electric car before.”
I’ve replied to RCI asking them to get the customer service/marketing people involved so they can address this before any national marketing kicks in. We early adopters might put up with this sort of niggle, but I’m not sure the masses would. You can just imagine Jeremy Clarkson and his pair of goons gloating over the un-insure-ability of the Zoe.
May 13, 2013 at 19:34 #2853
AnonymousForgot to mention: insurance for me from Renault’s insurance provider was about £1,500, almost three times as much as Admiral. The chap on the phone (who was great at checking things up for me) suggested that this was because I’m a new driver, so hopefully the rest of you won’t have quite such a high price to pay!
I’m going to try a quote with my other half as the main driver. She’s been driving 14 years, but she only has an EEA licence. It’s legal to use over here, but I can imagine it not going down too well with insurers.
May 13, 2013 at 19:56 #2854Just got of the phone from Admiral – I’m already insured with them. I asked for a quote for a value of £16,000. I also said that the battery was the property of Renault Finance and they would need to be paid if there was a claim. The lady needed to check with her manager since this was the first time she’d been asked to quote for an electric car and the result was that yes, if the battery is damaged and there is a claim they will pay out to RF but if there is no claim against the car (i.e. battery only damage) then they would not. I am working on the assumption that if the battery goes pear shaped without being in an accident it is covered under the warranty and if it is damaged in an accident, there will be enough damage to the car shell that I will be making a claim so will be covered. Am I missing anything? Will get a more accurate quote (including the battery value) once I have a delivery date.
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